1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Hey, what's going on? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,600 Hey guys, what's going on? 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,600 Salem, Massachusetts. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,600 So the witch is... 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Excited. 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,100 Yeah, we got a couple different places. 7 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:18,520 We're going to be checking out the Lyceum restaurant and the Hawthorne Hotel. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,520 Yep. 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Excited. 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,960 The Lyceum was actually originally a property of Bridget Bishop, who was the first woman 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,040 to be accused of witchcraft and hanged for. 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,280 So I think that it's definitely got a lot of potential for us to catch something. 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Then we got the Hawthorne Hotel. 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Right, at the Hawthorne they have what sounds like a lot of residual type activity. 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Seeing shadows come to a door and disappear. 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,440 But one thing that's interesting is they have this area down in the basement where, 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,480 I guess, tables will stack themselves and things like that. 18 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:50,480 So, everything. 19 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,120 We got the full gamut up there. 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,120 You guys psyched? 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Come on, it's Salem. 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Yeah, it's Salem. 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,120 It's in her own backyard. 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,240 I've been here many nights, but never, never no investigators. 25 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,640 I've only been here twice in my whole life, so it'd be pretty cool to get back there. 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Sounds good. 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,800 So, we all set, truck packed? 28 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Yep. 29 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,800 All right, well come on guys, we got Salem, Massachusetts waiting for us. 30 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Let's go. 31 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,800 You just seen? 32 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Yes. 33 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Grant, nice to meet you. 34 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Hi, Grant. 35 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:21,280 This house is the site where John Ward actually helped the sheriff with a lot of the sheriff's 36 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,080 nasty little duties, not leaving a very good energy behind. 37 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,920 And apparently, John Ward himself seems to have stayed behind. 38 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:39,320 He's hanging around, making things move around the house, opening and closing the front door. 39 00:01:39,320 --> 00:01:43,360 These are real gravestones, but there's nobody buried underneath. 40 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,720 There was a graveyard behind the church, which was built over, and instead of unburying everyone, 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,880 they left them in turd where they were and moved the gravestones forward. 42 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,640 So they moved the stones and left the bones. 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,000 There's a lot of symbolism in those old stones. 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,440 This has been used as a cemetery since the late 1700s, early 1800s, called the Howard 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Street graveyard. 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Well, this is said to be the most haunted house in Salem. 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,080 This was the foundation where mean, nasty old sheriff George Corwin used to live. 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,080 No way. 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Yeah. 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,360 And this was the basement where he used to bring some of his prisoners back to to torture 51 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,360 them. 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,360 So where's the body now? 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Well, they had to bury it somewhere and they couldn't bury it where other people might 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 be able to get their hands on it. 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,400 So the body's down here in the basement of this house. 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,880 Oh man, that nasty guy's buried under there. 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,800 He's buried right under the central staircase in the house. 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:00,280 This is our witch trial memorial. 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,800 This was established in 1992 to honor the victims that were executed. 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Hey, Grant. 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Oh, check it out. 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,800 Bridget, Bridget. 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,800 Here it is. 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Oh my God. 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,800 It's the same as I remember it. 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:19,120 You know, this was a starting point for me way back then, propelled me into this field. 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Just imagine if people had treated the whole witchcraft thing the way we try to treat the 68 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:25,640 paranormal. 69 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:26,640 Let's find out what's really going on here. 70 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:27,640 You're going to save a lot of lives. 71 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:32,640 Coming back to Salem sort of emphasizes that point about what we do in our research. 72 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,160 And thanks for bringing me back and hopefully I can get back here before another 20 years 73 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,160 passes by. 74 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,160 Right, exactly. 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,160 All right, let's get out of here. 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,160 All right. 77 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Yeah, I'm really excited to be back. 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:56,360 I was here over 20 years ago and I come up here with my parents to the house of Seven 79 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Gables on a ghost tour. 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,400 And I remember going up the stairs and kind of lagging behind them a little bit and I 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,920 felt myself really drawn to this one particular bedroom. 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,680 And it was closed off from the public and the tour had kind of gone ahead and I just 83 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,840 stood there and just felt so compelled just to look in this room. 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,800 Almost as if I was waiting and watching for something to come out of the air. 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,960 And then my mom called me and said, you know, come on, catch up. 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,280 And I did, but I kept looking back at that room. 87 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:29,600 You know, I went home that day thinking there's something so magical and mystical about Salem. 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,760 I wanted to see if this town still had the same effect on me as I did back then. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,480 So, Jim, thank you so much for meeting me today here. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,480 Thank you for asking. 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,480 Glad to see you. 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,480 You too. 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Now let's talk about the Lyceum restaurant. 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,720 The first of Lyceum was a society and there were like thousands of them, literally thousands 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:54,720 of them across America. 96 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,200 It was a lecture series so that people, you know, could be head and fight. 97 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,960 It was like a gathering place for intellectual speakers. 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,960 Exactly. 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,120 So they formed the society and then they decided to build their own building up on Church Street 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,280 right in the downtown area. 101 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:12,160 Essentially it was a 500 seat amphitheater and it was built specifically for the lectures. 102 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,760 I heard that it used to be the site of one of the most notorious people of Salem, Bridget 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Bishop, who was one of the first people accused or the first person accused of witchcraft. 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,560 This was her homestead. 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 This was where her house and her orchard was. 106 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,800 Is there any truth to that? 107 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Yeah, absolutely. 108 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,520 Although she wasn't the first accused, she was the first to be condemned and put to death. 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,680 One of the intriguing things with Bridget is many years before, I think the year I can't 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,480 remember, she had been accused of witchcraft. 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,480 Oh, really? 112 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,120 A year earlier, long before 1692 and she'd ultimately been found innocent and some minister stepped 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,400 in to defend her, which was typical for witchcraft cases. 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,240 So she sort of had a reputation before she actually got accused the second time around. 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Once branded, you know, there's always a certain level and she had a couple husbands die, you 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,720 know, there's always a little speculation or whatever about that. 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,560 And she wasn't always the easiest person in the world to get along with apparently, you 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,560 know. 119 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,640 So when her name came up in 1692, it was almost a foregone conclusion. 120 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,200 The unusual thing with Bridget is how many people lined up to testify against her? 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Against her? 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,200 Like almost an entire neighborhood, yeah. 123 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,880 I always say it was virtually impossible to be found innocent, to be found guilty was 124 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,120 just sort of routine. 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,640 In terms of tragedy that has happened at the location, you know, oftentimes paranormal 126 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,680 events are related to tragic events in history because they evoke a lot of emotion and they 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,720 stay within the location. 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,720 Do you know of any tragic events that have happened there at the Lyceum? 129 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,720 I mean, it's not. 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,200 You know, other than really Bridget Bishop's demise, you know, and I mean, certainly that's 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,040 a tragedy in its own right. 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Well, thank you, Jim, for coming out today and talking with me. 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,200 It's a pleasure. 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,200 It was all mine. 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,200 So thank you for coming. 136 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,200 So enjoy the rest of your stay. 137 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,200 I will. 138 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Ready? 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Yeah. 140 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Okay, Brian, I got something. 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 What's that? 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 Something around his cross. 143 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,200 No, it's an open. 144 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,200 There's a flashlight. 145 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Yep, watch. 146 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Go back. 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,200 So we got the flashlight on. 148 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Over here. 149 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,200 So a little right there. 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,200 That's the flashlight right there. 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Hello. 152 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Yeah, I'm here. 153 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Hey. 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Hey. 155 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,200 The TVR is all done. 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Anything on the audio at all? 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Nothing. 158 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Yeah. 159 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 I know the damn thing. 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,200 All right. 161 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Oh, good deal. 162 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Let's go. 163 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,200 All right. 164 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,200 All right. 165 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Thank you. 166 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,200 Let's go. 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Hey, guys. 168 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Hey. 169 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Sorry, I just got off the phone with Jay. 170 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,200 I don't know if you guys know. 171 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,200 One of his twins busted his arm into place. 172 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Oh, boy. 173 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Yeah. 174 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,200 And, you know, he's, Jay hasn't been sure if he's going to be able to hit this case 175 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,200 or not. 176 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,200 You know, everyone keeps him in your hearts and all that. 177 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,200 He's got to be with his family right now. 178 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Of course. 179 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Of course. 180 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,200 So anyway, we're at the heart of the show. 181 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,200 We're going to be back. 182 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,200 We're going to be back. 183 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,200 We're going to be back. 184 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,200 We're going to be back. 185 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,200 We're going to be back. 186 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,200 So anyway, we're at the Hawthorne Hotel in Salem, Mass. 187 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,200 It's, it was built what, around 1920. 188 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 It's got some pretty good reports of activity. 189 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Everything from furniture in a room being rearranged to apparitions on the sixth floor. 190 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:29,200 I guess they have two rooms that are adjoining but no one on the planet has a key to one 191 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,200 side of the room. 192 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,200 But they still hear noises and footsteps as if someone's staying. 193 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Actually, there's been some recent activity in the last couple days. 194 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Two of the guests have reported. 195 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,200 They've made reports. 196 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,200 One saw a male apparition walking down the hallway 197 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,200 and decided to follow it. 198 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,200 And it just disappeared in front of room 612. 199 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Nice. 200 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,200 And another guest checked out early 201 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,200 because they were hearing little girls run up 202 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,200 down the hallways and talking, 203 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,200 and they were just so freaked out they left. 204 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,200 All right. Any questions? 205 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,200 All right. 206 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,200 Pack it up and go. 207 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Let's go to Salem. 208 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Say a phrase. 209 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Say it. 210 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 We've got wea-been original chips.